Pitch on CDJ-1000MK3

   

Hi, I've been spinning vinyl for several years now (progressive house, progressive breaks), and I just got some Pioneer CDJ MK3's. They're awesome. Obvious why they are becoming the standard. But I feel like I'm just missing something fundamental about them. I can't seem to match up the bpm's properly. I can get pretty close, but that definitely isn't gonna cut it. When I think they're perfect, I do my mix, and they jump around on me and it sounds like crap. I've tried using CDJ mode and Vinyl mode. Doesn't seem to make a difference for me. Where do I set the tempo? i.e. +6, +10, wide?

Any words of advice are welcome. I love the music, love the scene, and I want to get out there and spin. Thanx

(frustrated) JesseM

Offcourse it could also be an inadequate pitch range setting. Just use the button above the pitch fader and MASTER TEMPO button. It says TEMPO with some numbers below. It toggles in a cycle between the pitch range settings.
You should see the setting in the colour red on the right side of the main display. If you can't see it you can always move the pitch fader all the way up or down. Then you should be able to see the maximum of the range on the bigger white numbers on the right of the display. You look for the pitch % indicator.

For general mixing use the smallest range as than you have the highest pitch resolution (changes in pitch = 0.02%). At the 100% range you're reolution is far more less and this could be your problem.

Hi Jessem,

Welcome to DJResource.

CDJ's are ruling when it comes to getting them sync.... when you do you knkow for sure that they will stay in sync for the duration of the track.

When setting a differen range, also the accuracy changes. Pitch scale 6% has 0.02%, if you can't get it in this scale ...

Look for the button just above the pitch fader... Check the topic about the CDJ-1000mk3 and you'll see this image :



With CDJ's the difference with vinyl (when pitching) is : On a vinyl deck the speed changes when the faders moves a tiny bit. On CDJ the pitch only changes when it changes in the display. I check the pitch reading constantly when moving the pitchfader to make sure it moves up only 1 step.

I mostly use the 16% scale and never came to a situation where it was impossible to match them... and when it should happen I remember the pitch reading and change the scale.

This is pure a Vinyl DJ "Bug"
There is a difference between a digital pitch and an analog pitch
Analog is 100% pitch adjustable. (No steps)
Digital is always in steps.
Even when they are verry small, the difference stays.
For example: if your record is 138.115 BPM
A CD player can only pitch it at 138.110 or 138.120.
So you always have a gap.
With 2 exactly the same CD's you wont have any problems.
But when the CD's are different you might run into this problem.
Happends to me verry often.
Gladly the Pitch bend of the CDJ1000 is verry smooth so
it is adjustable with the Jog.

Poster: DJ-Emotion
This is pure a Vinyl DJ "Bug"
There is a difference between a digital pitch and an analog pitch
Analog is 100% pitch adjustable. (No steps)
Digital is always in steps. 

 

This isn't true.
The pitch on a TT is also in steps. But you can't see it, because there is no display on a TT (except for the Numark TTX).

Poster: Winston

And I think the pitch bending on the jog is also in steps and not continuously.

 

For sure, its digital.
However a good way to adjust without anyone hearing it.
Aspecialy when you use the MT function

Poster: Zuur
This isn't true.
The pitch on a TT is also in steps. But you can't see it, because there is no display on a TT (except for the Numark TTX).

 

It's true. I read something in the wrong way.
But, there are so many others things on a TT that have influence on the pitch. Wow&flutter, the rc occilator with his errors.

In other words, on a CD-player you can match songs better.

You can read it here (in dutch): Pitch

Poster: Zuur


It's true. I read something in the wrong way.
But, there are so many others things on a TT that have influence on the pitch. Wow&flutter, the rc occilator with his errors.

In other words, on a CD-player you can match songs better.

You can read it here (in dutch): Pitch

 

Its only better when you have 2 the same CD's or, when tracks are
recorded at a 100% acuracy on the beat with no percentage after the collon.

If its not, analog pitching is more flexible to adjust

Analog pitching is better, that's right.
But vinyl isn't recorded 100% accurate, and a TT isn't running 100% accurate at one speed. Not even close to 100%.

So, you won't get as much accurate as with Cd-players.

BTW, i can mix on both systems and get the songs in synq. When they're going out of synq I just correct one player.