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Poll : Decks: Technics or Oem ???

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M-Plex    posted on 12-12-2005 01:02
Because I seen a lot of discussions about which deck is better,
here's is a poll for you!


Which one of these decks are better do 'YOU' think!


Opinion Please!

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jordy    posted on 05-04-2006 10:43
OEM... beter in een aantal puntjes... en als je over resonantie begint moet je de Stanton variant maar nemen

Technics = niets mis mee... maar out-dated!
Rhino    posted on 05-04-2006 11:55
Technics of course , no doubt.


An example, when you get your technics out of the box it,s user ready.

Something you can,t say about the OEMS , they have to be undone of the(speling in dutch)space between the tone arm.

something like that is not really pro i guess, but hobby.

For example how can you make a decent scratch when the arm has a gap in wich it moves back and forth.

(by the way The oems do spin very nice , en you can mix a nice set on it, but earlies mentions are to cruel to be treu.


And then i have some experiences from the field that surely do right to the TECHNICS brand.


One time at the radio station where i play every now and then with friends , we discoverded that one of the technics decks had a little hum in it,s signal.

First we checked the groundwire etc etc.

Everything seemed to be oke, but the hum was still there.

after getting a bit frustrated we decided to open the machine.

What we found in there was something like Lake chocolate.

Somebody had thrown a cup of hot choclate with sugar in the turntable(probabely by accident, but didn,t tell the maintenance engineers.

It was a total wonder that the machine still did it,s work although it had a little hum.

We cleaned it thoroughly and it worked like it did all these years before.

we didn,t have to replace a piece .

It just STILL worked, ubelievable.


Second example:we used a lot agregators(dont no how to say it in english, probalely its EXTERNAL MOBILE POWERSUPPLY)when we gave illegal parties.

It,s a given fact that when you have  buttons and knobs, and everybody can acces them(because of the venue`s lay out of the illegal party), everybody WILL acces them.

It resulted in a fluctuating electricity level between probably 200 en 240 volt en even fluctuated in ampere.

The technics survived the fluctuations.

ElectricalFluctuations in the powersupply are know by there powers to destroy gear

It didn,t affect the technics at all Happy, laughing


And last summer(maybe the strongest story of all about the techs)me and a friend of mine where spinning outside .

We used a black and decker workmate with a wooden planchet to position 2 decks and a mixer.

But if you know what a workmate looks like , you,ll know that 2 decks and a mixer don,t fit on that workmate, so we used the planchet.

But by using the planchet we created an overhang of the 2 decks , so they had to be placed on the planchet both at the same time, otherwise one would fall of.
But when ballanced together it,s a rigid construction.

At the end of the night when the party was over ,one of the guys who helped us all night long ,had a little too much to drink en picked up one of the decks from the workmate.

You can imagine what happend to the other one and the mixer.

They where catapulted onto the ground from a hight of about 110cm.

They fel on solid street stones real hard,........you could really hear it,s pain when it hitted the ground....LOL

And you know what, it still plays every week , and is as rocksolid as it was a these years before.

Next year the machine has it,s birthday , 17 years old,........ we will celebrate by givin it a real chunky record to play.

May be it gets a litte kiss to, ......i love technics.

Its simply the best deck for dj,s ever, no argue for me about that !


User edit by Rhino on 05-04-2006 @ 12:44:27 (2%)
jordy    posted on 05-04-2006 12:12
If technics had made a more up-to-date model
with:

- more precise pitch
- no overshoot
- second stop/start button (for scratching style)
- maybe something like MT

then it would still BE the #1 TT on ALL sides..

but that would be if it was me in charge  Winking my eye
Rhino    posted on 05-04-2006 12:47
Pitch is very precise to me, it,s the only thing i use to make corrections, therefore i also have no trouble of overshoot, because i,ll never sweep the plate during mixing.
Only use the pitch fader to make corrections.

But again no doubt that the oems are very very nice players, but i just prefer the techs.
Happy, laughing
djmamo    posted on 05-04-2006 14:09
@ Rhino


i see you did a lot with your technics but this doesn't see why its better than the oems..... because you only can see that if you tride this with a oem you know witch one is better.

www.moonentertainment.nl
Bastian    posted on 05-04-2006 16:00
Poster: Rhino
Technics of course , no doubt.


An example, when you get your technics out of the box it,s user ready.

Something you can,t say about the OEMS , they have to be undone of the(speling in dutch)space between the tone arm.

something like that is not really pro i guess, but hobby.

For example how can you make a decent scratch when the arm has a gap in wich it moves back and forward
 
But when the "speling" is removed than you have the tone arm of a technics!
Rhino    posted on 05-04-2006 16:28
2 mamo: but from technics we know it survives the hardest conditions for sure!

And that helps people choosing i guess.

Also when you use google, and search for problems about the 2 decks you,ll hardly find problems with the MKII(and i mean MKII`s only), but you,ll find enough problems with oem players.


And i think that are real credits for technics, it say something about the build quality and their performance.

And fact is that they are known by all kinds of people who wont be surprised if they see a technics set in their booth where they have to play, but they will be surprised when they see oems for sure.


Most important , its the industry standard amongst turntables

Happy, laughing

jeansos2    posted on 05-04-2006 16:33
Why MkII's onlyConfused
Rhino    posted on 05-04-2006 16:39
Because these are the decks i,m experienced with

i own MkII`s myself .
The followers of the MKII are a little different(probably just as good) 
so i cant speak for them !(used them and all , but dont own them .
djmamo    posted on 05-04-2006 17:37
Poster: Rhino
2 mamo: but from technics we know it survives the hardest conditions for sure!

And that helps people choosing i guess.

Also when you use google, and search for problems about the 2 decks you,ll hardly find problems with the MKII(and i mean MKII`s only), but you,ll find enough problems with oem players.


And i think that are real credits for technics, it say something about the build quality and their performance.

And fact is that they are known by all kinds of people who wont be surprised if they see a technics set in their booth where they have to play, but they will be surprised when they see oems for sure.


Most important , its the industry standard amongst turntables

Happy, laughing

 


ok let me see witch site has problems with the synq? non......


and if you see one i want to know.


and industry standard..... this could change

www.moonentertainment.nl
Bastian    posted on 05-04-2006 17:51
Poster: djmamo
and industry standard..... this could change

 

Je ziet in steeds meer clubs synq's staan i.p.v. de technics.

Eigenlijk is de technics ook een beetje met features minimaal en het gaat eigenlijk

erom bij hun om de stevigheid en bij de oem's hebben ze ook nagedacht om er meer features bij te doen en dat maakt het ook concurerend ofzoiets:p 

djmamo    posted on 05-04-2006 18:06
Poster: Bastian

Je ziet in steeds meer clubs synq's staan i.p.v. de technics.

Eigenlijk is de technics ook een beetje met features minimaal en het gaat eigenlijk

erom bij hun om de stevigheid en bij de oem's hebben ze ook nagedacht om er meer features bij te doen en dat maakt het ook concurerend ofzoiets:p 

 


zou ook wel willen weten in welke clubs er dan synq's staan

www.moonentertainment.nl
Bastian    posted on 05-04-2006 18:08
Zie het wel eens op site's waar dan dj's draaien enzo weet meestal niet hoe die clubs hetenConfused

User edit by Bastian on 05-04-2006 @ 18:09:02 (100%)
djmamo    posted on 05-04-2006 18:09
Poster: Bastian
Zie het wel eens op site's waar dan dj's draaien enzo weet meestal niet hoe die clubs hetenConfused

 


welke sites dan

www.moonentertainment.nl
djjw    posted on 05-04-2006 18:24
die staan er gewoon niet,  misschien in een soort jeugd centrum...
ik twijfel wat aan die uitspaak... heb het nog nooit gezien iig..
en je kan het ook alleen van internet hebben want je komt er ook geen
club binnen als je 13 bent.

User edit by djjw on 05-04-2006 @ 18:25:25 (13%)
Bastian    posted on 05-04-2006 18:46
Poster: djjw
en je kan het ook alleen van internet hebben want je komt er ook geen
club binnen als je 13 bent.

 
ik bedoel ook dat ik het op internet heb gezienWinking my eye
en k heb nog ff gekeken en bij ons in de buurt hebben ze ze staan in "de herberg"
en zag ze ook wel eens een paar keer voorbij komen op de site van dj jeanWinking my eye
Camino    posted on 05-04-2006 22:46
hey hey... english part of the forum here Winking my eye


So the conclusion i draw from the comments made at the top of the page:


If you intend to drop/sit on/pour beverages into/burn/use powertools on your decks - go for technics. Otherwise - OEM Winking my eye 

djjw    posted on 05-04-2006 23:11
Poster: DeafDJ
hey hey... english part of the forum here Winking my eye
 
oeps sorry,  didn't see that... when i made my reply
jordy    posted on 05-04-2006 23:52
if all disco's have technics and no oems... doesn't make a oem less good Winking my eye

people just are afraid to change... and there is no real reason why they should want to... "why change a winning team?"

but well... time will tell Winking my eye
Camino    posted on 06-04-2006 00:02
Poster: jordy
people just are afraid to change... and there is no real reason why they should want to... "why change a winning team?"
 


well... i'd say the higher torque, more elaborate functions (such as different pitch ranges, reverse, and start/stop adjust) and especially drastic difference in price would suffice as incentive to switch to OEM... wouldn't you say?

jordy    posted on 06-04-2006 00:17
different pitch ranges won't be an isseu for most ppl..

reverse.. would be nice for some ppl... but not really nessesary for the most of us

torqeu can always be more Winking my eye

adn start stop would be nice indeed...


but price... well that mostly isn't a big isseu for most clubs/pro-dj's i geass?!
the cheaper the better always count's Happy, laughing



again: Nothing wrong witch technics... the OEM just has more possibility's...

technics is being lazy... would be nice if they made a MK3 Winking my eye shouldn't be so hard hehe
Camino    posted on 06-04-2006 00:24
i beleive they are currently at the mk5 already aren't they? but you're definitely right, there's no significant changes from model to model. to me it appears as if technics is just scared to lose its reputation by coming out with something innovative that the DJ world wouldn't like as much as their "good old" MKII's... The only real advantage technics has over OEM, as i see it, is that it has slightly less rumble...

jordy    posted on 06-04-2006 10:37
and where is the MK3 and MK4 Winking my eye

and rumble isn't an isseu @ all OEM's, well... then i mean the Stanton OEM wicht has more weight Winking my eye so... and that one asswell has MT on it (dunno the quility of that but still..)

edit:
http://www.new-line.nl/webshop/view.asp?i=12794

Key Features:

  • World's Strongest Torque Motor (4.5 Kgf-cm)
  • Heavy Duty Steel Construction
  • Ultra Stable Platter and Tone Arm
  • Includes Stanton 680HP Cartridge

Other Feartures:

  • Start/Brake Speed Adjustment
  • Digital Output [S/PDIF] Plug straight into CD-R or computer sound card
  • Key Correction
  • Selectable Phono or Line Output (Key correction works on line output only)
  • Dual Start/Stop Buttons
  • Height Adjustable Tone Arm
  • Reverse Play
  • 3 speeds [33,45,78]
  • Quartz Lock
  • Selectable pitch control [+/-8%,+/-25%,+/-50%]
  • Motor Off Feature
  • Removable Target Light
  • Adjustable Feet
  • Includes slipmat and "L" shaped cables
  • Includes Stanton 680HP cartridge mounted on headshell

    i've underlined and bolded the new features VS technics... and that for i believe about the same price Winking my eye and better looks in my opinion

User edit by jordy on 06-04-2006 @ 10:42:08 (100%)
djmamo    posted on 06-04-2006 12:21
if you look at the dj jean site you will see that he is using synqs.(dj jean fotos erotic madhouse)



www.moonentertainment.nl
Laidback    posted on 06-04-2006 12:25
Thats Cause For a Good DJ it doesnt matter If He Has To Play with Oems... Or Original Technics..

but i bet he prefers. Technics Winking my eye

and i think that .. thats what he gets on every party..

wel except for this Madhouse EroTiXX then Happy, laughing

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